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Wednesday 24 May 2023

Older islanders "uneasy" about independent taxation

Wednesday 24 May 2023


Older married couples are "uneasy" at the prospect of being "forced" to move to independent taxation, according to a States Member who is pushing back on the plan.

Legislation being presented to the States Assembly this year will make it compulsory for all married couples and civil partners to be independently taxed from 2025.

But Deputy Lyndon Farnham has put forward a proposition calling for independent taxation not to be mandatory for married couples and civil partners who currently complete a joint tax return and choose not to elect for independent taxation.

After an initial push to reform the personal taxation system from then Treasury Minister Susie Pinel, the States Assembly agreed that from 2022, anyone who gets married or becomes a civil partner or anyone arriving in Jersey will be responsible for filing their own tax returns and paying their own bills.

Deputy Farnham said his proposition "fully supports" the previously agreed position of independent taxation as the "default position" for all new married couples and civil partners.

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Pictured: Deputy Farnham said he still supports the position of independent taxation.

He added: "However, I believe a number of islanders are uneasy about the retrospective nature which would force all existing tax paying couples to begin filing independent returns. I support independent taxation, but I didn't vote to make it compulsory or retrospective."

"Islanders who have contacted me belonging to the older generation of our community don't understand the rationale of forcing this on them when the joint tax return has been working exceptionally well for married couples since the Income Tax law was introduced in 1928."

His proposition therefore seeks to allow existing tax-paying married couples and civil partners to continue to file joint tax returns should they choose to.

Answering a question in the States Assembly earlier this month, Deputy Elaine Millar confirmed that out of approximately 19,000 taxing paying married couples and civil partners, only 121 couples from a pilot group and 282 others had opted for independent taxation for 2022 and 2023.

"It is proving to be most unpopular," Deputy Farnham said.

"Many Islanders simply don't want to change, but would like for ease to continue operating with the existing system."

While there is no financial impact for some couples, the new tax rules means approximately 7,000 couples would see their tax liability increase.

Where one partner has income below the single person's income tax threshold, which was £18,550 for 2023, and the other partner's income is more, the two independent tax bills added together may be more than was paid with the current allowances.

The couple will be able to claim a compensatory allowance for the difference when Independent Taxation is made compulsory, but it is proposed that allowance will be in place for only 10 years.

Deputy Farnham added that the logistics of the compensation scheme, particularly for the older generation, pose more of a problem where the husband, or the wife, will never have completed a tax return prior to this.

In addition, where one individual may have become ill or incapacitated and physically unable to complete a form there are no exemptions to allow a joint return.
The proposition is due to be debated on 13 June.

Deputy Farnham acknowledged that it might be a "challenge" to get all States members on board, "but it's certainly worth a debate in the States".

Read Deputy Farnham's proposals here.

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Posted by Keith Marsh on
Totally behind Deputy Farnham's proposal. It only increases the amount of Tax we would have to pay, but also increases the amount of record keeping and the completion of a 2nd Tax Return, which is unnecessary.
Leave Married Couples Taxation alone, UNLESS they want to change.
Posted by John Ambrose on
I find this all a bit odd, given that joint taxation was never compulsary as far as I am aware. During my 11 years in Jersey, 80-91 during my two marriages we always paid our income tax independently, and rightly so. I don't really see what all the fuss is about.
Posted by Jon Jon on
Totally correct ,this shouldn't be forced .If the wife wants to get taxed separately then its up to her .This will cause more work for the tax man and I think we will end up paying more tax than we do now,so yes don't make this compulsory!
Posted by Frustrated Islander on
This is not right and should be left as a voluntary decision. Is this yet another way to increase tax through stealth means? Anyone who has been resident here a few years will know that a tax change is never to the advantage of the working individual / pensioner but it is to the States.
Posted by SimonBevens28 on
It is unfair that couples declaring jointly potentially pay less in tax then if they declared individually. Everyone, married or single, should be paying on the same basis, not getting a discount based on status.
Posted by Forman Crawford on
One or two posts here seem to be under the impression that those using the old joint return system are trying to maintain an advantage of preserving a lower rate of tax. However the truth is that a higher rate of tax on the combined income is often paid !
Let us suppose that a married couple are on individual taxation . They both earn £16,550 each, giving a total income of £33,100 . Using the 2022 allowances their income tax liability is NIL.In the case of those making a joint return then they would be liable for tax on £33,100 - £26,550 (married allowance) = £6,550 @ 26 % = £1703 tax liability. I have of course assumed that there are no further allowances applicable.
Simple I hear you cry - just go onto the independent taxation system. Unfortunately this won`t cut the mustard when there is a disparity in incomes, which is often the case when it comes to pensioner households. Thus suppose that the household income is still ,as above, a total of £33,100 but one person earns £25,000 and the other £6,100 . The person with £6,100 doesn`t pay any tax as they are below the allowance figure. The tax due for the other person is £25,000 - £16,550 = ££8,450 @ 26% = £2,197 compared to the amount of £1,703 quoted above.
There is another factor relating to Jersey pensions which I suspect not many will know. This relates to the old system where a husband could allocate part of his Jersey old age pension to his wife if this was more than she would receive in her own right. The Tax Department, in its wisdom, a couple of years ago stated that this amount now has to be included in the tax return as being the husband`s income. In taxation terms if the spouse`s only source of income is this "allocated " pension then for tax purposes her income is zero , so a total allowance of £16,550 under independent taxation would be lost and the household tax bill would be £33,100 - £16,550 ( one single allowance ) = £16,550 @26% = £4,303 , compared to the current bill of £1,703. This is a rise of 152%
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Posted by gordon le claire on
what about the oap's having to pay tax on their pensions twice i.e they would have already been taxed on the total earnings before then paying into a pension.
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